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		<title>By: ocean1025</title>
		<link>http://deafpagancrossroads.com/2008/05/06/i-brake-for-killdeer/#comment-20826</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you to both Chickslayer and Markus for sharing your points of view. 

I think both of you have made some interesting and thought-provoking points which merit consideration. This is why I am choosing to leave all of them up for others to read and possibly ponder over. 

However, I would like to ask that we now put this issue to rest. If you two wish to discuss it further, please do so outside of the realms of this blog. 

Any further comments on this matter will be deleted.

Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you to both Chickslayer and Markus for sharing your points of view. </p>
<p>I think both of you have made some interesting and thought-provoking points which merit consideration. This is why I am choosing to leave all of them up for others to read and possibly ponder over. </p>
<p>However, I would like to ask that we now put this issue to rest. If you two wish to discuss it further, please do so outside of the realms of this blog. </p>
<p>Any further comments on this matter will be deleted.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Unread</title>
		<link>http://deafpagancrossroads.com/2008/05/06/i-brake-for-killdeer/#comment-20825</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Markus Unread]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with your choices around helping to save the baby Killdeers. I also don&#039;t find writing about the experience to be inflammatory, except to those who search for any reason to become inflamed.

I disagree with one thing, though.  This is YOUR blog.  Just like a public circle, people who have the intention to disrupt, mock or harass can be asked to leave (or deleted).

There are easily a million blogs where angry, snarky, hateful people can post whatever verbal vomit they can puke up onto their keyboards.
Your blog doesn&#039;t have to be one of them.

&quot;even people I don’t like can have something worthwhile to say.&quot;   But what about when there isn&#039;t anything worthwhile?  How is being called &quot;self righteous&quot; or &quot;self satisfactory&quot; or that your &quot;character flaw seems to neutralize well intentioned deeds&quot; worthwhile?  How does it contribute to anything but the ever-spreading smug cynicism that is the earmark of the blog-poisoning troll?

It&#039;s your blog.  You don&#039;t HAVE to sponsor their comments on it - especially when it&#039;s from someone who has no respect for you or your actions.
It&#039;s not their right.

&quot;Delete&quot; isn&#039;t always a bad thing.  I&#039;d be happy see my comments go away in the process of cleaning up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your choices around helping to save the baby Killdeers. I also don&#8217;t find writing about the experience to be inflammatory, except to those who search for any reason to become inflamed.</p>
<p>I disagree with one thing, though.  This is YOUR blog.  Just like a public circle, people who have the intention to disrupt, mock or harass can be asked to leave (or deleted).</p>
<p>There are easily a million blogs where angry, snarky, hateful people can post whatever verbal vomit they can puke up onto their keyboards.<br />
Your blog doesn&#8217;t have to be one of them.</p>
<p>&#8220;even people I don’t like can have something worthwhile to say.&#8221;   But what about when there isn&#8217;t anything worthwhile?  How is being called &#8220;self righteous&#8221; or &#8220;self satisfactory&#8221; or that your &#8220;character flaw seems to neutralize well intentioned deeds&#8221; worthwhile?  How does it contribute to anything but the ever-spreading smug cynicism that is the earmark of the blog-poisoning troll?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s your blog.  You don&#8217;t HAVE to sponsor their comments on it &#8211; especially when it&#8217;s from someone who has no respect for you or your actions.<br />
It&#8217;s not their right.</p>
<p>&#8220;Delete&#8221; isn&#8217;t always a bad thing.  I&#8217;d be happy see my comments go away in the process of cleaning up.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Unread</title>
		<link>http://deafpagancrossroads.com/2008/05/06/i-brake-for-killdeer/#comment-20824</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Markus Unread]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was wrong. ChickSlayer didn&#039;t come on here to be a uncaring argumentative troll.  He&#039;s right! Killdeers babies should have evolved to deal with busy motorways even though nature programmed their parents to nest in flat gravely areas near water (like near roadways) so it&#039;s their fault.  Anyone helping these little creatures are smug self-centered tree hugging bastards who have no other other motives than to make t-shirts announcing their superior lifestyle choices. How could we be so blind?

&quot;I would never, however, stoop to the sad hilarity of namecalling on the internet.Laughable.&quot;

Think of it as shorthand for describing someone who sees the need to cut down every good deed, mock people who actually bother to help those in need, piss on someone who had the ultimate egotistical delusion that they were simply talking about an event that was special to them.  Ok, Let&#039;s not say that you are an asshole (which you certainly haven&#039;t disproven yet).  It&#039;s safe to say that you are filled with self loathing and anger that you just HAVE to share.  Not an ego thing, just wanting to spread your enlightenment of hateful uncaringness to an otherwise unwilling audience.
Thanks for that.  You know there&#039;s simply not enough verbal venom and mockery on blogs these days. That&#039;s your special form of &quot;sad hilarity&quot;.

&quot;A good deed is heard louder left unspoken.&quot;
- But you just have to speak your angry, mocking excuses for inaction.  That&#039;s why you posted here, right?
Is there some cute wildlife you&#039;ve smashed with your car, or failed to save when you could have, that makes you so angry at other peoples&#039; good deeds?
Do you attack wildlife rescue centers for their obvious lust for notoriety and admiration?  Do you laugh watching animals smothering in putrid oil on TV?
(Kill &#039;em all. Let nature sort them out)

Listening to your own smug, sarcastic and hateful words - if your WERE into name calling - what would you call yourself?

Thinking back, I guess I know what you mean.  That Mother Teresa is one smug, selfish bitch.  Oh, she&#039;s dead? That&#039;ll teach her. What an asshole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wrong. ChickSlayer didn&#8217;t come on here to be a uncaring argumentative troll.  He&#8217;s right! Killdeers babies should have evolved to deal with busy motorways even though nature programmed their parents to nest in flat gravely areas near water (like near roadways) so it&#8217;s their fault.  Anyone helping these little creatures are smug self-centered tree hugging bastards who have no other other motives than to make t-shirts announcing their superior lifestyle choices. How could we be so blind?</p>
<p>&#8220;I would never, however, stoop to the sad hilarity of namecalling on the internet.Laughable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Think of it as shorthand for describing someone who sees the need to cut down every good deed, mock people who actually bother to help those in need, piss on someone who had the ultimate egotistical delusion that they were simply talking about an event that was special to them.  Ok, Let&#8217;s not say that you are an asshole (which you certainly haven&#8217;t disproven yet).  It&#8217;s safe to say that you are filled with self loathing and anger that you just HAVE to share.  Not an ego thing, just wanting to spread your enlightenment of hateful uncaringness to an otherwise unwilling audience.<br />
Thanks for that.  You know there&#8217;s simply not enough verbal venom and mockery on blogs these days. That&#8217;s your special form of &#8220;sad hilarity&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;A good deed is heard louder left unspoken.&#8221;<br />
- But you just have to speak your angry, mocking excuses for inaction.  That&#8217;s why you posted here, right?<br />
Is there some cute wildlife you&#8217;ve smashed with your car, or failed to save when you could have, that makes you so angry at other peoples&#8217; good deeds?<br />
Do you attack wildlife rescue centers for their obvious lust for notoriety and admiration?  Do you laugh watching animals smothering in putrid oil on TV?<br />
(Kill &#8216;em all. Let nature sort them out)</p>
<p>Listening to your own smug, sarcastic and hateful words &#8211; if your WERE into name calling &#8211; what would you call yourself?</p>
<p>Thinking back, I guess I know what you mean.  That Mother Teresa is one smug, selfish bitch.  Oh, she&#8217;s dead? That&#8217;ll teach her. What an asshole.</p>
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		<title>By: ChickSlayer</title>
		<link>http://deafpagancrossroads.com/2008/05/06/i-brake-for-killdeer/#comment-20823</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The killdeer article simply struck me as extremely self satisfactory.Not unlike the Prius driver with seven &quot;Hybrid&quot; stickers smocked over their LUVMPGS license plate, nor the &quot;I vote&quot; T-shirt wearing Clone,this character flaw seems to neutralize well intentioned deeds. Imagine the ego to &quot;assist&quot; some fledgling killdeer, then feel the need to blog about your good deed to the world.I&#039;m sorry there are those of you who are so easily offended.I would never, however, stoop to the sad hilarity of namecalling on the internet.Laughable. Ironically, if Mother Killdeer has a blog of her own, it probably contains the following excerpt: &quot;Unfortunately, we were not able to save the fourth baby – before we could get to it, the chick ran out into the road and was run over by a passing motorist. Needless to say, I was quite upset and cursed at the driver while giving her the finger. But at the same time, I realize that this is just one of the harsh lessons that Mother Nature teaches us...&quot; 
A good deed is heard louder left unspoken.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The killdeer article simply struck me as extremely self satisfactory.Not unlike the Prius driver with seven &#8220;Hybrid&#8221; stickers smocked over their LUVMPGS license plate, nor the &#8220;I vote&#8221; T-shirt wearing Clone,this character flaw seems to neutralize well intentioned deeds. Imagine the ego to &#8220;assist&#8221; some fledgling killdeer, then feel the need to blog about your good deed to the world.I&#8217;m sorry there are those of you who are so easily offended.I would never, however, stoop to the sad hilarity of namecalling on the internet.Laughable. Ironically, if Mother Killdeer has a blog of her own, it probably contains the following excerpt: &#8220;Unfortunately, we were not able to save the fourth baby – before we could get to it, the chick ran out into the road and was run over by a passing motorist. Needless to say, I was quite upset and cursed at the driver while giving her the finger. But at the same time, I realize that this is just one of the harsh lessons that Mother Nature teaches us&#8230;&#8221;<br />
A good deed is heard louder left unspoken.</p>
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		<title>By: ocean1025</title>
		<link>http://deafpagancrossroads.com/2008/05/06/i-brake-for-killdeer/#comment-20822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ocean1025]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, this blog IS moderated...by yours truly. I check in on the site on a daily basis, and all comments are emailed directly to me.

Yes, I saw Chickslayer&quot;s comment. It might not have thrilled me, but he has a right to his opinion, and he does make a legitimate point...whether I choose to agree with him or not. 

Chickslayer&#039;s is not the first comment on Deaf Pagan Crossroads that might appear &quot;offensive&quot; - nor I suspect will it be the last. But I have made it a policy that unless a comment truly has nothing worthwhile to say or is clearly spam, I leave it. There are a few I have had to think about, and this might have been one of them... but I&#039;m not going to go removing every comment simply because the messenger comes across as a &quot;commentard.&quot; I&#039;ve got better things to do with my time.

As a fifty-something year old High Priestess with over 25 years of experience under her belt, I&#039;ve learned that some things just aren&#039;t worth getting into a debate over. I&#039;ve also discovered that even people I don&#039;t like can have something worthwhile to say.

Did I do the right thing in making that U-turn and helping these killdeer chicks? Maybe...maybe not. Maybe I should have kept on driving and left things up to Natural Selection. Maybe all of the chicks would have lived to grow up and produce families of their own.

But we are all given freedom of will, and the responsibility of accepting the consequences of exercising such. For better or for worse, I made a choice that day...one of the thousands of choices I have made in my life. Some were great choices, some were merely fair - and others were pretty damn stupid. 

But I will stand behind the choices I have made, and own up to the not-so-great ones.

And sometimes I write about them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this blog IS moderated&#8230;by yours truly. I check in on the site on a daily basis, and all comments are emailed directly to me.</p>
<p>Yes, I saw Chickslayer&#8221;s comment. It might not have thrilled me, but he has a right to his opinion, and he does make a legitimate point&#8230;whether I choose to agree with him or not. </p>
<p>Chickslayer&#8217;s is not the first comment on Deaf Pagan Crossroads that might appear &#8220;offensive&#8221; &#8211; nor I suspect will it be the last. But I have made it a policy that unless a comment truly has nothing worthwhile to say or is clearly spam, I leave it. There are a few I have had to think about, and this might have been one of them&#8230; but I&#8217;m not going to go removing every comment simply because the messenger comes across as a &#8220;commentard.&#8221; I&#8217;ve got better things to do with my time.</p>
<p>As a fifty-something year old High Priestess with over 25 years of experience under her belt, I&#8217;ve learned that some things just aren&#8217;t worth getting into a debate over. I&#8217;ve also discovered that even people I don&#8217;t like can have something worthwhile to say.</p>
<p>Did I do the right thing in making that U-turn and helping these killdeer chicks? Maybe&#8230;maybe not. Maybe I should have kept on driving and left things up to Natural Selection. Maybe all of the chicks would have lived to grow up and produce families of their own.</p>
<p>But we are all given freedom of will, and the responsibility of accepting the consequences of exercising such. For better or for worse, I made a choice that day&#8230;one of the thousands of choices I have made in my life. Some were great choices, some were merely fair &#8211; and others were pretty damn stupid. </p>
<p>But I will stand behind the choices I have made, and own up to the not-so-great ones.</p>
<p>And sometimes I write about them.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Unread</title>
		<link>http://deafpagancrossroads.com/2008/05/06/i-brake-for-killdeer/#comment-20821</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Markus Unread]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 05:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, ChickSlayer, finally the anonymous asshole strikes!
It&#039;s too bad that unmoderated blogs bring out the worst in people.  I&#039;m sorry, not people, just little angry commentards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, ChickSlayer, finally the anonymous asshole strikes!<br />
It&#8217;s too bad that unmoderated blogs bring out the worst in people.  I&#8217;m sorry, not people, just little angry commentards.</p>
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